Thursday, November 04, 2004

The Last Battle

By Sheila Samples

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  1. “When I look at (John Kerry) I see an honest, caring American patriot, and I am proud of the man who returned from Vietnam with a fistful of medals the Silver Star, the Bronze Star with Combat V, three Purple Hearts, the Presidential Unit Citation for Extraordinary Heroism, the National Defense Service Medal, the Vietnam Service Medal, three Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medals, and the Combat Action Ribbon.”?

    Strange how we leftists supported the so-called hero of Vietnam, an unmitigated act of aggression that slaughtered 3 million Indochinese, and seriously wounded millions more, and disparaged he who dodged it.

    Posted by Tracy McLellan from  on  11/04  at  10:06 PM

  2. Here’s more for you, T:

    Winona LaDuke, Nader’s running mate in 2000, said: “I’m voting for John Kerry this November. I’m voting my conscience. John Kerry provides promise for Native America and for America. His policy proposals involve vision—like alternative energy, more accessible health care, and finding all those children who have been ‘left behind’ by the Bush administration. Heck, Kerry can even say ‘sovereignty,’ which is a far cry from Bush’s inability to pronounce the word.”

    Posted by Mickey Z. from  on  11/04  at  10:10 PM

  3. The logic of chortling to Kerry, “You would have been a good president, John—even a great one,” and then pointing out how quick Kerry was to surrender is rather striking.

    Posted by kim from  on  11/04  at  11:11 PM

  4. Yeah, for a second, I thought this was commondreams.org.

    Posted by Brandy Baker from  on  11/04  at  11:16 PM

  5. I can understand why Kerry supporters would be disappointed in the man.  It seemed as though when he said something like “we need a stronger America” or his hapless criticism of George Bush and the war in Iraq, I thought to myself, “he can do better than that.”

    We need a war in Iraq like we need another hole in our heads.

    The Republicans have got what they wanted.  Something I wouldn’t wish for.  Neither does John Kerry.

    Let the guy have his peace.  There are better things for him other than being President of the United States.  That’s George Bush’s job.  Glad I don’t hold the office.  So is John Kerry.  It’s the worst job anyone could ever want to have.

    Posted by MDPB from  on  11/04  at  11:17 PM

  6. Why are people still writing praise for Kerry?  Why is such disgusting compounding of ignorance w ignorance being supported here?  Why do we feel the need to put such absurdity in its place? I assure you that I write these few words here only with the vision that readers will finally get their hammers and put the final nails in the coffin that must be buried soon. To motivate you to do so...so that you can see what else you can do...with the time you save.

    Posted by Richard Oxman from  on  11/05  at  04:18 AM

  7. Perhaps, if Kerry felt as ED felt (see below), he would’ve hung in there for the sake of the throwaways in our country.  Alas, his meals are still more bountiful than most.

    “Now my friends, I am opposed to the system of society in which we live today, not because I lack the natural equipment to do for myself but because I am not satisfied to make myself comfortable knowing that there are thousands of my fellow men who suffer for the barest necessities of life. We were taught under the old ethic that man’s business on this earth was to look out for himself. That was the ethic of the jungle; the ethic of the wild beast. Take care of yourself, no matter what may become of your fellow man. Thousands of years ago the question was asked; ‘’Am I my brother’s keeper?’’ That question has never yet been answered in a way that is satisfactory to civilized society.

    Yes, I am my brother’s keeper. I am under a moral obligation to him that is inspired, not by any maudlin sentimentality but by the higher duty I owe myself. What would you think me if I were capable of seating myself at a table and gorging myself with food and saw about me the children of my fellow beings starving to death.” - Eugene Debs

    Posted by Nader Rider from  on  11/05  at  10:16 AM

  8. Hey, is both PressAction and Counterpunch missing a big story? Pardon me if there have been some items that covered this and I have missed it, but there are lots of stories flying around on the internet (yeah, can’t believe those, although Time magazine is certainly trustworthy) that the election was stolen through voter fraud and the electronic voting machines. Is this another example of the Left in agnostic denial of an inconvenient (technically complicated)/unsexy topic (such as 911)?

    Counterpunch had ONE item on this and that was it! Commondreams seems more atuned to the issue this time.

    Of course, everything that people are saying about the false alternative between Bush and Kerry is true, but the level of corruption is even deeper, a post modern farce. It also makes absurd, in a very empirical sense, the entire debate that took place before the election both here and at Counterpunch (and among the Greens and Naderites) about who to vote for since if it is true that the vote is manipulated from the start, then the debate is irrelevant. I was as guilty as the rest on this account-- deluded that my opinion mattered regarding who to vote for.

    Posted by Rhino Rick from  on  11/05  at  07:41 PM

  9. Time is trustworthy?  Yeah, so are ABC and CNN.  Beutiful cite of Debs - thanks for passing that along NR.  I don’t think the President is the worst job anyone could have, considering what you could accomplish holding the job.  As Gore Vidal said in 1992 in an open letter to Clinton at his inaugural, make yourself a sure one-term president by marching across the street to the Pentagon and telling them as of now, things have changed; and slashing Pentagon spending, I can’t remember the figure Vidal suggested, 15%? 50%?  You’ll have approached real greatness and have done your country an immeasurable blessing.

    Speaking of wasting no tears on Kerry, goodbye Tom Daschle.  Thanks for your courageous stand against the Project for the New American Century of the Bush Administration, and their mad dash to war in Iraq.  Thanks for precluding that calamity.  Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out the door. 

    What a terrible loss for Kerry.  Now when he arrogantly asks the doorman, or the shoeshine boy if he knows who he is, the answer with be only U.S. senator, not president.

    Posted by Tracy McLellan from  on  11/05  at  08:13 PM

  10. The bit about Time magazine being trustworthy was a joke-joke, lost in translation, sorry. But then you go onto completely ignore the substance of my post, as I’m sure will most of the Pressaction/Counterpunch savvy Left pundits.

    Yours, Irrelevant Rhino

    Posted by Rhino Rick from  on  11/05  at  09:54 PM

  11. Thanks to the Internet, much of what gets reported in the conventional media today is picked up from online sources.  Bloggers have increasingly become the stimulus for conventional airings of stuff that the conventional media wouldn’t otherwise pick up, for various reasons.  Rather than decry and belabor the conventional media, it would be more fruitful to us if we used the medium that we DO have, to further the objective of exposing what really happened on November 2, 2004.  I don’t think that we are utlizing the Internet to the fullest tactical advantge, re. this story, yet.  This is where, I feel, that our efforts belong at the moment.  To use what we DO have at our disposal, optimally and to its fullest extent.

    Posted by Nader Rider from  on  11/07  at  12:41 PM
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