Saturday, April 24, 2004

Stopping the Wars That Be With a Free Mickey Z

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  1. Salutations.

    Oxman is the Kool Keith of left wing journalism, and I mean that as a compliment in the highest order.  (Google Kool Keith)

    Posted by J Cummings from  on  04/24  at  10:12 AM

  2. In a nutshell, surely the Soviet Union - while its intentions were not pure - HAD to defeat the Nazis.  I agree that it was not America’s shining moment, but it sure as hell was for the Red Army, who understood - as in Stalingrad - how to win.

    Posted by J Cummings from  on  04/24  at  10:15 AM

  3. Thanks for responding J Cummings.  Hugs for the kind, supportive words.  At the risk of sounding like a total looney out of the in-loop, please elaborate on who Kool Keith is...as I love the moniker...but can’t make the association.  Re the Russians, I think that “the shining moment” for the Soviets took place only in a very narrow sense.  Too much horror took place for that to be the general take. And on that note, please note that I’m doing a search to find a Michael Parenti article --excellent-- which really puts to bed the notion that the Soviets or the Americans had to fight Hitler...that we ever had to get to the point where people had to be starved to death in Stalingrad and elsewhere.  Mickey’s book by the way, goes down that road quite a bit too, and I do hope readers here will focus their attention on how avoidable these wars are --all of them-- and not get distracted into finding “good points” respecting the abominations that take place...that have taken place for too long.  We all must keep our eyes on the most positive end of the spectrum.  The issue no longer has to be what we would do if someone were attacking our home...our families.  That is not the challenge now to address such questions.  Our energy should be put toward looking at what people like the Red Army HAD to go through at a certain juncture, perhaps, versus how situations like that can be averted.  The “how” here is going to require a helluva lot of personal risk...a helluva lot of action other than what most of us are involved in at present.  Good luck to us, Richard

    Posted by Richard Oxman from  on  04/24  at  11:57 AM

  4. Modern warfare is, pure and simple: omnicide.
    Nuff’ said.
    Yes, I’m still here, but how long til one of those “demon hot atoms"--as my friend Russell D. Hoffman likes to call radioactive pollution--released from DU weaponry, finds it’s way into my body ? Will be taking antioxidants in the meantime in some vain hope…

    I have always treasured Howard Zinn’s analysis of the absurdity of modern warfare.  When he visited Japan once to talk about WWII, he got up on the podium and couldn’t say a word, just choked up as he rememberd the hideous war crimes he had participated in (and acknowledged as such).

    On the other hand, John Frankenstein Kerry is a baby killer/ war criminal and wants to kill more babies given the chance. This is who the Left wants to elect?

    Posted by Rhino Rick from  on  04/24  at  07:11 PM

  5. I don’t pretend to understand this debate. I’d just like to comment that the first shots you hear of a new war are actually the final, culminating catastrophe of a long series of actions-reactions. Wars come from somewhere.  By the time they get here, it’s pretty late in the process.

    For me, the challenge is to try to understand how history moves from one calamity to another.

    Take 9-11.

    It’s not the opening shot in a new (pseudo) cold-war—at least not only that. It’s the culmaination of at least 30 years of cynical double-dealing on the part of the US, and others. It was obviously not an immaculate conception. It had parents.

    World War II had parents also—mostly involving Germany and there First World War and aftermath. Trying to understand who and what these parents were is important. The Second World War has become a kind of folk tale. I’m hoping Mickey Z’s book will shed some light on what actaully happened and why.

    Thanks,
    Christopher Guida
    Dennysville Maine 04628

    Posted by Christopher Guida from  on  04/24  at  08:49 PM

  6. Thanks to Christopher and Rhino Man:  I trust that readers and all of those connected with them will be encouraged to focus much more on “the parents” that CG refers to above re 911, and take people away from the endless talk that does not address the grievances of the so-called terrorists.  Also, on an entirely other note, I hope that people commenting here will take the time to provide a supportive remark attached to Mickey’s Pat Tillman article posted late today. There are too many abusive threats being thrown his way.  All of those violent people ready to kill Mick for writing words...are the same people who will not flinch at killing people abroad...for any reason.  To not deal with them now...as we deal with the grievances mentioned above...is to be complicit...down the line...if and when hostilities are manifested.  Sylvie and I talked today about how some people cannot function in the heat, some not...in extreme cold.  Just so with people who must have everything in neat categories vs. those who are not, say (from my point of view), anal retentive.  Those “other” people on these shores must be dealt with tactfully and with compassion NOW...as we address the concerns of those “angry enemies” from abroad.  You will find, of course, that people in the U.S. who might have been able to help avert WWII...faced very similar challenges.  Loving regards, Richard “Kool Keister” Oxman.

    Posted by Richard Oxman from  on  04/24  at  09:16 PM
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