Friday, August 20, 2004

Shooting at Whales: 40 Years after Tonkin

By Mickey Z.

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  1. Thanks for your article.  How soon the American public forgets former deception and allows our “leaders” to pull the same old tricks again and again.  If History was a more popular subject perhaps we would be wiser and halt these fools before they have a chance to harm us and the rest of the world.

    Posted by Jeff from  on  08/20  at  03:43 PM

  2. It is up to Jeff to popularize (alternative) “history.” Each one of us, Ox

    Posted by Each and every Ox from  on  08/20  at  05:47 PM

  3. Expanding on Richard’s comments…The more ‘mainstream’ historians (if we could for a moment consider them a homogeneous group) of course love to brandish the pejorative labels of history being ‘revisionist’ or ‘politically correct’ (a particularly loaded and misused tern here) over anything that differs from percieved and ‘official’ truths. This reaction is of course a defense mechanism – sometimes conscious and sometimes subconscious (literally desiring what we want to be true, to ultimately be true.) ‘Mainstream’ history (as Mickey knows and writes about) is of course is riddled with outright mistruths, half-truths, truths removed from context, spins, and various codified mythologies.

    But of course there is another trapping (and an important clarificaion) - the idea of being ‘alternative’ to the mainstream does not necessitate one also be imparting truth.  In refuting what we may call ‘official’ history, it is often simply being contorted to meet another agenda. One need only do a internet search to find self-proclaimed ‘revisionists’ inhabiting all sorts of cooky positions, and while decrying ‘official’ truths are simply propping up their own sloppy versions of history (‘easy’ examples being those who insist the Jewish/Gypsy/Dissedent holocaust of W.W.II was a complete fabrication, to Southern appologists, etc., etc.)


    The points being of course those who choose to write about history ultimately bear a huge responsibility and we as readers must be constantly mindful of from whece it came (no exemptions.) Like most important things it is best approached with a crtical distance and a sober sense of consequence…


    Thanks, as usual, for the article Mic.

    Posted by RzG from  on  08/20  at  09:42 PM

  4. btw...in the above post it seems to have replaced all my quotation marks with question marks...so disregaurd them accordingly smile

    Posted by RzG from  on  08/20  at  09:50 PM

  5. To keep things simple, RzG, almost ANY alternative version --shy of saying that a given holocaust didn’t take place-- would be a welcome relief to...the absolutely cancerous/tired tripe that’s been shoved down the throats of everyone for much too long on these shores.  Shore up your support for (almost) anything that might be anti-American, please.  Truth?  We can worry about that as we cross it...on a need-to-know basis.  Ancient Ox

    Posted by Ancient Ox from  on  08/20  at  10:58 PM

  6. There is no alternative history or alternative truth - only history and truth, albeit relative.
    Such terms actually need to be cast off, or turned on their head - the mainstream, the defenders of empire - they are the ones who need to be called out as ‘revising’ history. And ‘the truth’ need not be sured-up, modified, or enhanced to do this work.

    Posted by RzG from  on  08/20  at  11:46 PM

  7. Karl Liebknecht put forward the notion that the true function of war was not aimed at an external foe, rather it is a social mechanism thats aim is to, “Subordinate the mass of the population to exploitation at the hands of the Dominant class.”


    This is why America’s Defense establishment took the morning off on 9/11/01.

    Also, the Politics of Extraterrestrials can be understood by taking a gaze through the looking glass that KL gave to us. “Its the Nuclear Weapons Stupid.”

    Read More at; http://politicsofet.com/

    Posted by Pat Sullivan from Des Moines, IA, US  on  08/21  at  12:44 AM

  8. RzG, in your first comment (#3 above), I think you meant exceptions, not exemptions.

    Posted by Tracy McLellan from  on  08/21  at  05:44 PM

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