Saturday, August 14, 2004

Nader Is the Only Choice

By Tony Soldo

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  1. Thanks, Tony. I do recommend that people see this weekend’s Counterpunch entries which support --very much-- what you’ve put forth here. Interesting how so many readers keep asking what they can do...when it’s very clear that --AT THE VERY LEAST-- they can get five others to do what you’re urging them to do come November.  Remember, this is coming from someone who is very “down” on electoral politics.  Nevertheless, it’s obvious that if one wants to undermine what’s going on...they can, at the very minimum, make sure that as many people as possible do NOT vote for Kerry or Bush...one way or another.  Hugs, Oxie

    Posted by Non-electoral Oxbutt from  on  08/14  at  12:46 PM

  2. Excellent commentary on Press Action Tony. My thoughts exactly. Awesome graphic too. Thank you for both replying to my e-mail earlier today as well as graciously providing me with permission to reprint this commentary of yours in full on my unofficial Vote4Nader blog (which I did with all the usual credits and links, etc. of course). Much appreciated.

    Posted by mwb from Montpelier, Vermont  on  08/14  at  03:42 PM

  3. I share your contempt of Kerry, along with your judgment that Bush is probably the worst pResident ever.  I also share your support for Nader.  I voted for him in 2000 in Kentucky.  But I had it easy because Kentucky was double-digits for Bush.  Had it been close I would have had a more difficult choice considering Gore - which would have been even harder were it the lackluster Kerry - the bestest, tersest description of whom I’ve heard is that he represents dreary ambition.  And you’re right about Nader having most people’s interests at heart.  Hearing his integrity and honesty on the stump is almost a religious experience.  I will either vote for Nader or stay home.

    Posted by Tracy McLellan from  on  08/14  at  09:23 PM

  4. great article and I share your sentiments exactly!

    Now can you convince Zogby to open up his eyes instead of his pocket?

    Posted by VO from  on  08/15  at  02:21 AM

  5. IS THIS A JOKE, ARE YOUR A CLOWN OR WHAT. WHETHER YOU OR I LIKE IT, KERRY OR BUSH WILL BECOME PRESIDENT, HELLO,HELLO. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE ELECTORAL VOTE DUDE. have you ever heard of the electoral college, hello, nader has no party, thus he has no electoral votes, you MUST HAVE ELECTORAL VOTE MAJORITY TO BECOME PRESIDENT, WHAT PART OF THIS DO YOU NADER PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND,THIS IS EXACTLY WHY THE MAN IS A SPOILER, FOOLS WILL VOTE FOR A MAN WHO CANNOT EVER ,EVER BE ELECTED AND LET DUBYA GET IN AGAIN, DIDN’T WE LEARN ANYTHING FROM THE LAST TIME

    Posted by mark patterson from  on  08/15  at  10:18 AM

  6. The United States of A is the “spoiler” in this lifetime, Mark.  Mark my words...a lotta votes for Nader/Camejo will go a very long way toward dismantling the U.S. of Abominations.  I think it’ll help you to acknowledge that we don’t have anything close to “four more years” to give to anyone. Everyone needs to be encouraged to take the next “four days” MORE under their belt, take responsibility for forcing significant change in this country outside of the electoral arena...regardless of who they vote for.  I don’t know if you are old enough to have been around for the S&L crisis, but ALL politicians shamelessly showed their hands at that time, where they really lived.  I cite that ‘cause it’s an historical event that’s not clouded by shrieks of this and that patriotic/fear blah blah.  Good fortune, Ox

    Posted by Fortunate Ox from  on  08/15  at  10:32 AM

  7. The Electoral Vote is one of the strongest reasons to urge voters to vote for Nader.  As Greg Bates has pointed out in his book “Nader’s Revolt,” all but 15 states are solidly in either the Bush or the Kerry column.  In the other 35 states, Maine and Nebraska in which each district votes separately, voters ought to serious consider not wasting the vote on the obvious winner of loser of that election, which is to say they ought to vote their conscience, vote protest, and stay away from the corrupt duopoly, and vote for Nader in building momentum for a real progressive movement as compared to the me-too Democrats.  As Bates also pointed out, power is most malleable when it feels vulnerable.  Any potential Kerry victory, as depressing a possibility as that is, ought to be as slim as possible so as to make Kerry more apt to respond to popular pressure.

    Posted by Tracy McLellan from  on  08/15  at  08:18 PM

  8. Was wondering if VO could make clearer the meaning of her/his comment respecting Zogby?  I’m on their listserv and I’d be interested to know what s/he meant.

    Posted by Tracy McLellan from  on  08/15  at  09:24 PM

  9. Excellent! What is up with these “progresive” “anybuddy but bush"people? If they are so fearful, how are they ever become leaders? People look for courage in any leadership that promises change. Nader/Camejo and their supporters are truly courageous!

    Posted by Muslims For Nader/Camejo from  on  08/15  at  11:47 PM

  10. Hello, and thanks for all your comments.
    Neat to know there still is people who at least try to think logically. By browsing through Nader’s website, and looking at other articles, it seem rahter obvious that both Rep and Dem parties are extremely co-related, and indeed little, if anything, going to change - unless of course, a third-party candidate will win; and that is completely unthinkable today. I am afraid everything suggests, that the undesirable Bush policy will continue at same pace - this time with J. Kerry being in charge. I don’t care whether it is Bush, Kerry or Tyson - I want a change, a real change in our country’s current policy. Everyone of us VOTING against these two duopolists, already makes a difference.

    Posted by Alexander Lange from Springfield  on  08/20  at  05:05 PM

  11. Billionaires do not respond to the kind of pressure suggested above.  They have to be forced to change their ways in ways that are not discussed in pleasant progressive circles. If we really expect change...we’re going to have to dispense with the platitudes.  The difference that comes from voting against the “two duopolists” might be worth mentioning, but --certainly-- is NOT something to take any comfort in.  We are avoiding the challenge that faces us by limiting ourselves to our safe observations.  Short of our being willing to invest more energy into “alternative” talk...and to take some real risks...the differences we discuss and clarify with such Frazierian (as in the show Frazer) distinctions will play to canned laughter. I love you all for trying, but I sure wish you’d take your well-intentioned hearts and acknowledge our mutual failings.  Brother Ox

    Posted by Brother Ox from  on  08/20  at  06:13 PM

  12. To Tracy McLellan: Please Don’t stay home!  Did you know that your potental/current employer can look up whether or not you voted?  People can not get good jobs because of this.  To Mark Patterson: In response to FOOLS WILL VOTE FOR A MAN WHO CANNOT EVER, EVER BE ELECTED.  I do not vote to elect a man, nor really does any other individual in America.  It is America as a whole (or in the past election, the supreme court) that elects a president.  I vote for what I believe: America Can Stand for all it believes, in all of its many complex forms, but only when each individual person stands up for what they believe, even when it’s not quite clear.  I know that I should vote for what I believe in, not for what I fear.  I believe that Ralph Nader speaks the ‘truth’ even though I may not agree.  I believe, that with the large discontent of the American people with both Rep and Dem parties, that if the people voted for what they believed in that Ralph Nader could be the next President of the United States.  I believe and I know I am not the only one.

    Posted by Carissa Hill from  on  08/23  at  04:06 PM

  13. 500,000 protesters in NYC. From what I’ve heard from the people there “ not a pro Kerry sign to be seen. “ People don’t want him. That’s why the republicans nominated him.

    Posted by Jim from Hawaii  on  09/07  at  04:05 PM
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