Wednesday, April 14, 2004
Iraq Occupation Policy Under John Kerry
By
Abu Spinoza
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You sure are blind to the fact that all we are doing there is making the buddies of this administration fat as ever. If for once you don’t realize that there will be a difference between the two then you must be looking through some Rose colored glasses. For one we should have never gone there to begin with and second we never finished what we needed to do in Afghanistan. The only thing that matters now is anyone but BUSH.
Posted by Jim from on 04/14 at 10:32 AM -
Of course, Clinton policy killed more people than Bush Jr. policy. Jim, did you support an Anybody But Clinton campaign? Or is it that you only only care about humanity when you have a fun slogan to cheer behind?
Posted by Kap from on 04/14 at 11:10 AM -
Good work. It is more than an understatement to say that people in the West are far from taking part in “these types of civil actions.” Look at the people of Hayden’s generation who are well-educated in the ongoing “ills.” They are not in the process of educating many people regarding what has to be done, are they? I think the fact facing activists who want to bring about change --that most are avoiding on The Left-- is that it’s going to have to be a small number,not a huge number of recently educated people who will do things like close universities down. Of course, such education should be attempted daily as Abu suggests. However, we had better not wait for the fruits of those endeavors to blossom. Best, Oxy P.S. If --from here on out-- one-hundredth of the effort that’s put into getting it clearer and clearer how the Dems will be too little or no relief...is put into what strategies can be adopted by small numbers AND huge numbers (down the road) to improve matters...we’d be much better off. Some of that, by the way, will NOT be able to be posted...I am obligated to remind you.
Posted by Richard Oxman from on 04/14 at 02:10 PM -
RIGHT-ON Richard! But one question: why ‘close universities down?’ Yea they’re producing the capitalists and training the social elite actively/tacitly driving the war machine, but they’re also producing some serious activists communities and the campus environment CAN be a forum ripe for independant/radical thought. I mean aren’t they one of the few places you could actually go and listen to a speech by a Ward Chruchill (who actually teaches at U.Colorado), or a Jeffery St. Claire, etc. Speaking from personal experience, as a fairly recent university graduate, I now it was my time at one (and the people I met there) that gave me the jolt and turned me on to the matters at hand. I suspect other here might be able to express somewhat similar experiences. You even used to be a university professor (film) right?
Posted by BruceA from on 04/14 at 03:21 PM -
Please note that I do not advocate “closing universities down” but rather “symbolic shut downs of universities,” that is the shut down of classes as a way of expressing solidarity with the people of the countries being invaded. This could be for a few hours to a day or two. This would be led by initiatives of both students and faculty. The point is to help educate the students and to develop an understanding of the real conditions, not to shut off free inquiry and education. It should be said that in Fallujah and Palestine and elsewhere the occupiers have no hesitation to kill students, teachers, and destroy libraries and books and labs, and shut down universities, and even kindergartens.
Posted by Abu Spinoza from on 04/14 at 04:16 PM -
I do think there some difference between John Kerry and Bush # 2, concerning issues like: abortion, energy policy, tax policy, regulation of businesses, civil rights, Social Security, Supreme Court, and so forth. There is no doubt that Kerry belongs to the right-wing of the Democratic party even within the framework of the two-party oligopoly that dominates politics in the United States. I don’t find the differences between Kerry and Bush #2 in the domestic policy sufficient to warrant support for Kerry. Indeed, the rightward drift of Kerry’s policies, even by comparison to traditional Democratic positions, is alarming. The Democratic party is has no less zealous in bombing people.
I would say that it is much more worthwhile to support Nader in the real world because his position is progressive. This is not to say Nader’s position is perfect. It isn’t. But it is certainly better than Kerry’s.
There are many issues, which I would explore in essays in the nea future.
Posted by Abu Spinoza from on 04/14 at 04:34 PM -
To begin, let’s focus on two issues only, to make the question of what we have to do very clear. One, there’s the problem of planetary survival/ecocide. On that one there is virtually NO difference b. Kerry and Bush, and a Nader in office would only be a VERY humble beginning. The work to be done against the capitalist/consumer habits is what’s being ignored...to much focus going on electoral politics. Mina Hamilton’s piece on http://www.dissidentvoice.org titled DANGER LURKS BENEATH will straighten one and all out about the No Diff Between Kerry and Bush on this crucial -count definitively...using the out-of-control U.S. military as a point of departure. Two, if we don’t address the grievances of people like the ones who smashed into the WTC and Pentagon, etc. this land is going up in flames; many “more” spots will be made uninhabitable forever...law less honored than ever in the process. Both Bush and Kerry are our killers on that count. Finally, YES...by all means...keep the universities open, if you like, but close something down that will disrupt business as usual (w/o putting your heads on the chopping blocks). Best, Oxy P.S. On http://www.kzsc.org radio show tonight if any of you catch this in time...to catch the streaming audio.
Posted by Richard Oxman from on 04/14 at 07:18 PM -
Thanks Richard - I was able to tune into (and actually recorded) your appearence on http://www.kzsc.org. I thought it was ‘hardcore’ in absolutely the best sense - uncompromising but ultimately deeply humane.
Posted by BruceA from on 04/15 at 12:45 AM -
Thanks very much from my heart, Bruce, for the kind, supportive words. Loving best in solidarity, Richard
Posted by Richard Oxman from on 04/15 at 01:37 PM
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