Wednesday, February 02, 2005

My Secret Life as a CIA Operative

By Kurt Nimmo

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  1. Your research skills are a joke.  The Roosevelt-IAJC-CP link is on their tax forms, though this hardly means anything other than a Roosevelt scion is a far-lefty.
    The Congress for Cultural Freedom was used by the CIA to bankroll left-leaning publications durig the Cold War.  Do your homework.

    Posted by Ludwig von Gergen from  on  02/03  at  01:16 AM

  2. To say that Counterpunch is a CIA mole made me snort with derision. How utterly bathetic! If the Neocons told me it was sunny outside I would buy an umbrella. It is a brilliant resource that BRINGS TO LIGHT all of the disgusting fallout of nascent fascism in Amerika (sic). Tell someone like Jason Raimondo or Richard Oxblood that they are CIA shills and they would spit in your (one) eye! Maybe Luwig Von Gurgle should read Ludwig Von Mises?

    Posted by Greg Fisher from Sydney, Australia  on  02/03  at  02:38 AM

  3. You deserve some (or something) to deal with “It would be nice, though, if I could get my hands on some of that reactionary foundation money. I could use it right about now since I am unemployed, there are medical bills, car insurance, taxes, and other expenses I’d rather not divulge” for this.  For sure. Contact me at , please, Kurt.  Ox, The Undivulger

    Posted by Richard Oxman from Los Gatos, California  on  02/03  at  10:41 AM

  4. Now Mister Nimmo, you can see why I hate conspiracy wackos. Two sizes fit all, either they agree with you or you’re a part of the grand conspiracy.  I’ve only have had the pleasures of arguing with them for 4+yrs on the IMC. So, whenever someone mentions 9/11 I have to take my medication –high blood pressure medication.  After liberalism and libertarianism, conspiracy is this ‘movement’s’ biggest problem.
    We start out talking about global debt and the role of the IMF/World Bank/ WTO/ /G8/ GATT/ NAFTA/ in shaping our (their) world. But, trying to give people an overview of capitalism was soon drowned out after 9/11 by inane speculation..and from speculation to full-blown conspiracy.  From Mossad connections to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. (They always seem to end up at the ‘mother’ of all conspiracy theories.) This is of course why conspiracy is so dangerous. Once people get locked into that mindset they lose all sense of proportion, overwhelmed by paranoia and suspicion, fed by limited simplistic information they lose all perspective.  Once intelligent reasonable people they become raving lunatics....
    Obviously a symptom of the extreme alienation in this ‘society’. Extremely limited knowledge that fragmented postmodern people have of the system they live in.... That’s what we were and are trying to remedy.
    As someone who has written intelligently and often about difficult easily misconstrued subjects, I’m sure this isn’t the first time you’ve run into this. 
    In the immortal words of Lynard Skynard: “You don’t need what you can’t use and if you stick to the simple you’d be much less abused....Yeah, I know a little.. and baby I can guess the rest.”

    Posted by Red neck from The South  on  02/03  at  10:43 PM

  5. Ludwig von Gergen: my research skill in this case was Google, as noted. Read a bit closer. “The Roosevelt-IAJC-CP link is on their tax forms.” So you say. Let’s see them. Put up or shut up. I found no reference to this. And, yes, Google probably is a joke.

    Ox, I was kidding. But then, if I am to believe the people I referenced in the article, I already am on the reactionary payroll, for the few hundred dollars it was worth over the last five years.

    Red neck: Lynard Skynard also said: “Now Watergate does not bother me, does your conscience bother you?” Of course, I never expected a red neck band from Georgia to care if their president was a criminal. I guess they were too busy drinking Jack Daniels and smoking THC to care, oh and being rock stars stupid enough to fly in airplanes with pilots who probably knew less about flight than Mohammed Atta, that is if you believe M. Atta was in fact a pilot.

    Posted by Kurt Nimmo from  on  02/03  at  11:06 PM

  6. BTW, Von Mises, the Congress of Cultural Freedom was run back in the 1950s. I’m not sure CP was established in the 1950s, unless Alex Cockburn is 87 years old. He looks closer to 60. But thanks for trying, anyway. I’d have to say the homework assignment you doled out is about five decades old.

    Posted by Kurt Nimmo from  on  02/03  at  11:22 PM

  7. To Von Gergen - The “left leaning publications” bankrolled by the CCF were middle of the road literary magazines like Encounter and also some were linked with Dissent.  The CCF did work with a few people who could be construed as left wing, but when they found out, people like Galbraith and Dwight McDonald immediately disassociated themselves.  Very few people, aside from Irving Kristol and Arthur Schlesinger knew it got government funds, let alone CIA funds, when the story broke, one writer in India almost got killed - the book “Who Paid the Piper” which I think is released in the States as “The Cultural Cold War” written by Frances Stonor Saunders is very important on this issue. 

    Funny thing is… They (CIA) have no power anyway, since OSP has taken over for them.  Kind of poetic justice for the Mafia of Operation Phoenix and Vietnam, Allende, etc.  The CIA are so twenty years ago in terms of conspiracy theories.  They have less power than the NED in ters of funding media - and I’d be willing to bet money that the NED is involved with magazines like Mother Jones, maybe the Nation, but def. not Counterpunch.  As for the CIA, well its clear that - and with fruitful results - Counterpunch has pioneered publishing dissenting ex-spooks.  Ray McGovern’s work was there before he became a regular at more mainstream websites.

    Posted by j cummings from Canada  on  02/03  at  11:44 PM

  8. I think the “CIA runs the Left” folks are just pissed because a lot of lefties don’t buy into a lot of the admittedly crazy 9/11 theories. i.e., pods under planes, global hawk remote control, etc. Mind you, I don’t think M. Atta and Crew did it either, not with boxcutters anyway, but some of the theories out there are rather bizarre. Since these often conflicting theories are not posted on CP and such, the “CIA runs the Left” folks believe the Left “gatekeepers” are conspiring to hide the truth. It’s crazy to assume that because the CIA dabbled in a few literary mags in the 50s, they have zombified the Left. Foundation money, on the other hand, is a whole different story. My favorite is the “Moyers Mafia” theory.

    http://www.undueinfluence.com/bill_moyers.htm

    It’s pure rightwing Libertarian nonsense. Besides, who ever said Bill Moyers was a diehard leftist, anyway? He’s a liberal, although that last article he wrote was spot on.

    http://www.startribune.com/stories/1519/5211218.html

    Posted by Kurt Nimmo from  on  02/04  at  12:01 AM

  9. global hawk remote control>>>

    That is certainly not a crazy theory.  It’s a technological fact.

    http://www.public-action.com/911/robotplane-ap/index.html

    http://signonsandiego.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=SignOnSanDiego.com+>+News+>+Military+--+Amid+crashes+and+hype%2C+military+shows+off+latest+robot+plane&expire=&urlID=5921994&fb=Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.public-action.com%2F911%2Frobotplane-ap%2Findex.html&partnerID=620

    Posted by Patrick McNally from FL  on  02/04  at  02:30 PM

  10. It may be actual technology but whey would you need it when you could convince “terrorists” to drive these planes into buildings? It’d be a lot cheaper.

    Posted by Kurt Nimmo from  on  02/04  at  05:17 PM

  11. you could convince “terrorists” to drive these planes into buildings>>>

    Considering the tendency of “suicidal hijackers” to turn up alive after blowing themselves up, it’s simpler to avoid depending on them.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm

    http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/disinfo/deceptions/allafrica_deadresurfaces.html

    http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/disinfo/deceptions/telegraph_stolenids.html

    http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/hijacker.html

    Posted by Patrick McNally from FL  on  02/04  at  06:33 PM

  12. Sherman Skolnick said it was all holographic ‘art’ and no planes actually flew into the towers.  No planes were required, just planted explosives and planned demolition.

    It’s too bad that there even are airplanes.  It would save a lot of pain and misery if they wouldn’t exist.  Of course, if planes really did fly into the towers.

    All of the evidence was hauled away before an investigation and forensic testing could take place.

    Maybe those cats who were screaming and jumping for joy on top of that building over in New Jersey could answer a few questions.

    Maybe the Saudi Arabian businessman who sold his suite for half of its value on 9/10/2001 has some answers.

    Since Kurt obviously works for the CIA, maybe he knows and just isn’t telling.  The MK-Ultra spell, you know.

    It really doesn’t matter that much anymore, we gots to hunt down the evil-doers.

    We don’t need no stinking evidence.

    Osama who?  What war?

    Posted by MDPB from  on  02/04  at  07:09 PM

  13. “All presidents have been monsters and killers,” Hunter announces. “When you see the list of great presidents, they’re all war presidents: Washington, Lincoln, Jackson, Roosevelt, Truman. All war. All presidents that have done vicious things.”

    “When the true story of this 911 thing comes out, it will be horrifying as to what really happened and who was behind it. Yeah, I think this is probably the end of the US Empire. And that day marked a stop on the road. The fall of the Roman Empire saw more action than the rise of it. And the US is about the same way. This country doesn’t have much to leave the world except huge clouds of poison gas and a lot of spilt blood."- Hunter S. Thompson

    Posted by MDPB from  on  02/04  at  08:35 PM

  14. Actually, I am a holographic CIA piece of art.

    Posted by Kurt Nimmo from  on  02/04  at  08:42 PM

  15. Actually, I am a holographic CIA piece of art.>>>

    On a more serious level, Lawyers Paralysis Syndrome has been a long-standing problem.  Despite all the transparent oddities in the MOSSAD-SAVAK assassination of Robert Kennedy, the legal defense of Sirhan Sirhan never got beyond the level of ‘lone nut innocent by reason of insanity.’ This pattern has recurred with 911 as many ostensibly ‘radical’ or ‘revolutionary’ groups remain stuck with ‘blowback, man, blowback.’ The 10 second collapses of the Trade Towers should convince any serious investigator that bombs were planted all throughout the buildings.  But in case simple physics is not enough for making a case, there is the film evidence of explosions going off everywhere across the buildings.

    http://thewebfairy.com/911/demolition/controlled.htm

    http://thewebfairy.com/911/demolition/close.htm

    http://thewebfairy.com/911/demolition/closeup.htm

    http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/Flashes/flashes.htm

    http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/gallery/Explosions.htm

    http://www.wtc7.net/videos.html

    http://www.wtc7.net/verticalcollapse.html

    Posted by Patrick McNally from FL  on  02/04  at  09:14 PM

  16. “It may be actual technology but whey would you need it when you could convince “terrorists” to drive these planes into buildings?”

    If I were a terrorist intent on killing Americans I’d ram the planes into nuclear power plants, not some skyscraper.  Wipe out the whole fucking capitol.  Goes a little far for a false flag operation, does too much actual damage to the empire.

    Posted by Joe Licentia from  on  02/06  at  12:57 AM

  17. Ford Roosevelt has been a Senior Advisor at FERI in recent years, as indicated by his own post on the internet a few years ago:
    Franklin Delano Roosevelt: An American with a Disability Acts!

    By Ford Roosevelt, Senior Advisor, The Franklin & Eleanor Roosevelt Institute

    My grandfather, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, was President of the United States from 1933 until his death in 1945. Over the course of his Presidency, he successfully put our nation back to work during the worst depression we had ever faced, and skillfully carried us through World War II - the worst war the world had ever faced. The challenges he faced during his four terms were among the most difficult ever faced by any US President.

    In 1921, twelve years before assuming the Presidency, Franklin Delano Roosevelt contracted a severe case of poliomyelitis. He was 39 years old, and just beginning to build his political career. He and his wife Eleanor were in the prime of their lives with five children…

    “... When standing, he wore long, heavy leg braces and balanced with a cane while leaning on the arm of a strong man - often my father, Elliott…

    “... My grandfather developed a deep, genuine empathy and understanding of the problems confronting these people…

    “...After his death, my grandmother was asked whether he would have been elected if he had not contracted polio. She noted, “...he would certainly have been elected, but he would not have been as good a President.”

    Visit the Franklin D. Roosevelt Library and Museum online at http://www.academic.marist.edu/fdr/

    If you check out the http://www.guidestar web site and then search under the IAJC term (without abbreviating it) it should give you access to the 990 form for 1999 which indicates that FERI Senior Advisor Ford Roosevelt was an official at IAJC/CounterPunch.

    See http://www.leftgatekeepers.com or questionsquestions.net for more info on this conflict of interest in the alternative media subculture issue.

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