Tuesday, November 02, 2004
It's the Policies, Stupid
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Nice one. About this: “The trouble, of course, is that the myriad variables that make this avenue appealing to a certain crowd will also conspire in the same and different ways to make it essential to hold off in the future.”
Of course, you are here outlining what would happen if we did get Kerry, not Bush. For the sake of discussion, let’s imagine it’s so; 3 questions: (a) Is it that they are going to be frightened of a Bush-type political resurgence and have to hold that fort? (b) Let’s say Kerry went ahead with the non-change platform, will they be able to stomach that long? (c) If (b), will they not be forced to let it rip rather than hold off? Just asking. I don’t know it’s a given that because folks ABBed, that they are necessarily locked into giving Kerry a free ride. For example, will Chomsky stop criticizing U.S. foreign policy because a Democrat’s in office? His track record suggests otherwise. We’ll see I suppose.Posted by Theo from on 11/02 at 01:19 PM -
It would be rather hypocritical of Chomsky and his ilk not to give Kerry a free ride, should he win, once he grasps the scepter. Although they have been hypercritical of Bush, they have pretty much given Kerry a free ride up to now. It’s the same old story – does no good to lock the barn door once the horse has been stolen.
Posted by Greg from Minneapolis, MN on 11/02 at 03:42 PM -
Hi Greg . . . I look at like this . . . I guess it’s a question of one’s personal moral code . . . I think going after Ralph is low, considering all the man has done, one should show some respect, not demonize him . . . the latter move is just nuts! Likewise with Noam: to blast the man as a blind supporter of Kerry’s imperial agenda is just silly (I’m not saying that’s what you said, just noting it’s out there.) Noam’s done more to elucidate U.S. foreign policy than a battalion of his new critics . . . I think their besmirching him is low. Nader and Chomsky differ. So what? That happens. Respect. Respect to the old dudes.
Posted by Theo from on 11/02 at 06:59 PM -
You’re right of course, Theo. I guess a big part of my problem is that I put 1000+ hours and a ton of money into the Kucinich campaign and now feel Dennis was a Judas goat all along - so I’m exceedingly bitter. I have dislliked Kerry for years and from the begining of the campaign felt Edwards was even more phony. The fact that so many progressives are willing to go along with Kerry will bother me the rest of my life, which at 64 will probably not be all that long. So I’ll now hang up my hat and just fade way.
Posted by Greg from Minneapolis, MN on 11/02 at 07:27 PM -
Hang in there Greg...here’s a poem for you.
THE PLEDGE.....
Do you pledge allegiance
To the Divided States of America,
And to the War Crimes for which it stands,
Many nations, all divided
With liberty and justice for all corporations.Posted by rosemarie jackowski from on 11/02 at 07:46 PM -
No man ... you are twice my age and I’m often ready to give up (usually on Mondays or Election Day)! It’s not your age or my age, but the age we live in ... Even I remember The Dead: “Not Fade Away!” Kucinich ... I feel you ... I was ready to help him too, but then realized ... he was pissed off at Dean for stepping on his progressive Democrat turf ... and Dean wanted to wage war like Kerry does now ... so no way pal! That’s just cracked! How’s that for a domino effect? See, I actually respected Edwards for his phoniness ... You knew exactly what you were getting ... a politician like you know and love ‘em. You can poke fun at John Edwards forever! The world’s going to hell in a handbasket and he’s optimistic! As far as Noam is concerned: I would like to think he’s already taken his own advice to Hitchens (who, incidentally, as is clear, did not take it) and we should just wait for ‘the author to return to his work’. Something I think he’s doing. The Kerry ueber alles progressive crew? If the K-man wins, they will have to immediately start rocking anti-imperialism all-day-all-night. (And apologize to Ralph.) I was almost with them ... but became totally unimpressed with how some people have treated Nader ... even I’m not that nasty. I stand with Nader at the last hour based on the principle of human decency. (That’s clear from my other comment.) I also think it’s important to start popping shots at Kerry before the election’s decided (after three months, a new judge, and a couple riots if we’re lucky) so nobody starts thinking we’re actually going anywhere because Bush might.
Posted by Theo from on 11/02 at 08:01 PM
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